I doubt any Republican Presidents would have done this

[WindowMan]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/pres ... id=9696284

Yes they were tag teaming on Obama and he held his ground. What Republican President that was in power would have done this? You think GW Bush would have or any other recent Republican President? I agree on this remark by Obama which stated. "We've got to be careful about what we say about each other sometimes, because it boxes us in in ways that makes it difficult for us to work together because our constituents start believing us." Regardless of how much you do not like Obama, it took some guts to go into a room full of the opposition and have to listen to their talking points and questions and to respond to them holding his ground. By the way, no teleprompter..

[DazedandConfused]

au contraire mon frere

February 3, 2007
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... gewanted=2

[WindowMan]

Lets see your comparing a visit by Bush with a handful of Democrats in a closed door meeting with what Obama just did yesterday? I do not need to translate that comparison.. Just wonder was it televised? By the way I'm impressed with your French Dazed..

[ucanit]

I have watched that thing several times now, WindowMan. While you translate that into something good, I saw an arrogant, stubborn, overbearing, in-your-face and in-your-place, I'm not here to listen because I'm just here to rub your face in the fact that I am the ruler, we won the election, so take this tongue-lashing before I whip your ass kind of guy! This was merely one more shot in the salvo of "we've got to go ahead and push our agenda ahead over everybody's objections and prove we can have our way. After we get what we want, then we'll try to persuade the American people that it is what they want."

Don't give me any of that "but, what about Bush bullshit." He was an arrogant ass too! But that doesn't give your nanny, Obama the right to behave the same way!!

[WindowMan]

Well I think your totally wrong.. Hey he had everyone after him in that meeting..He responded to their questions and their "talking points" real effectively.. How the hell would you react in the same circumstances? Let me guess you would say you were wrong?

[DazedandConfused]

WindowMan, Obama identified himself by denying what he is. Think back to the past - "I am not a crook" -- "I did not have sex with that woman" --etc etc

"I am not an ideologue"

Main Entry: ideo·logue
Variant(s): also idea·logue \ˈī-dē-ə-ˌlȯg, -ˌläg\
Function: noun
Etymology: French idéologue, back-formation from idéologie
Date: 1815
1 : an impractical idealist : theorist
2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology

Sol Alinsky advocated go on the attack when you have suffered a loss.
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

[ucanit]

I know, I know; WindowMan. You always think I'm wrong...not matter how right I am! I guess you think Obama misunderstood his advice from the Democratic Party, huh?

WASHINGTON — Wounded in Massachusetts, frustrated Democrats on Wednesday urged the White House to focus...and pressed President Barack Obama to more forcefully make their case against Republicans ahead of potentially disastrous elections this fall.

Is that not exactly what he did...in all is arrogance??

[WindowMan]

Arrogance? Why would Obama trying to make the chances of his own plan "to which he was elected for" succeed before the fall elections be a arrogant action? Would not a Republican President do the same for his plan and party? I do not think your wrong all the time for if I did I would never ask your advice of anything. If Obama was soft in this gathering then the ones who you side with all the time would say he is too weak to be a President. It always comes down to damn if he does or does not with some of you no matter what the hell he does.

You know all I see in here is most of you jumping down his throat about every damn action he does and that started from day one in office. I do not think that anyone running in the last Presidential election would have done a better job because we did not have much to choose from. Excuse me if I do not think McCain and Palin would have saved the day with the mess left on the table after the Bush adminstration.

[DazedandConfused]

WindowMan, politics has interesting math. Take an arrogant SOB who will not listen to anybody(Geroge W Bush) minus him and add an arrogant SOB who will not listen to anybody(Barrack Obama) and you still end up with an arrogant SOB who will not listen to anybody. 2 Minuses equal a minus. Where someone else would have done a better job would be in concentrating only on the economy, and not trying to burden a critical patient with increased taxation called the Obama Healthcare Folly. How about deciding that Islamic Terrorists deserve American rights and to top things off lets bring their disgusting asses to America. I applauded Obama's one correct action of removing the ban on federal funding for stem cell research. You just have to understand that when the OPR agenda is shone the light of day the people say "what the hell, I don't want that". I don't owe Obama shit. With as stupid as the people of Ameican can be, if they elect a Gansta next election am I obligated to honor his beliefs just because the people can be sold anything. You can trust me, I would be just as vehement if I were talking about that Bimbo Palen. I want a leader not a ruler

[DAISYCUTTER]

I give Obama lots of credit for having the balls to stand their and take questions from the opposition party. But I think his arrogance will prevent him from changing his views on health care. The american people have CLEARLY spoken, and dont want Obama to pass "Obama care". Will he listen? If he doesnt his party will suffer BIG TIME in Nov. 2010!

[WindowMan]

I do not know what you guys were smoking when you watched the recordings of this but he was listening and swallowing the pills of talking points from the Republicans for the most part. I mean they rambled for 20 minutes for the most part "before" they asked their question.. Like I said above as Daisy just stated, "I give Obama lots of credit for having the balls to stand their and take questions from the opposition party. But ".. It is that damn if you do and damn if you don't syndrome.. There is NOTHING that Obama can do to make you guys satisfied except step down in my opinion. Well you got at least two more years, so enjoy the ride..

[DazedandConfused]

WindowMan, if Obama listens to what the people want instead of the agenda of OP&R he can be a successful president otherwise he will go down as a dismal failure. The economy & jobs are the key. People do not want anything interferring with the economy & jobs. Screw Healthcare, Global warming and Islamic Terrorists rights. Maybe James Carvell can come in and slap him with a little common sense. He should be talking to Bill Clinton instead of whoever is advising him. I will be against Obama as long as he is pushing the issues that I oppose.

[DAISYCUTTER]

Dazed,You mentioned the big three right there! HEALTH CARE, GLOBAL WARMING, AND ISLAMIC TERRORIST RIGHTS! Those are the three items that Scott Brown campaigned against in MASS. and he won in a VERY liberal state! Obama can talk all he wants, but unless he drops these three items from his agenda, his party will suffer a crushing defeat in 2010!

[DazedandConfused]

Daisy, take at look at this link about Sol Alinsky's tactics.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

[DAISYCUTTER]

"Better to die on your feet, then live on your knees"!!!!! It seems like Obama is following his Marxist buddy Sol Alinsky to a tee! Create dependence, get the states and citizens on there knee's and you have them by the balls! By the time the public realizes whats going on, its to late, you already have them by the balls! As the great Thomas Jefferson once said, "the government that is big enough to give you what you want, will also take everything you have"!!!!! Can we bring Thomas Jefferson back from the grave, and make him our President again????