Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby DazedandConfused » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:14 pm

DDeath, WRONG :!: :!: I never watch any national news, only the local channel in the morning to catch the weather. I don't listen to the talking heads on the radio either. Bob & Tom radio show in the morning drive and rock on the way home. News is depressing :!: :!: I judge a President by my gut feelings, and I don't need a textbook to know when things aren't going well. Clinton, Reagan and Ike were my favorites, well I liked JFK also. Obama is the worst because he is orchestrating the total move to socialism. I liked Bush personally but he was a horrible president. Carter is an absolute joke. LBJ built the second leg of socialism and his Great Society ruined America. Bush 1 is sort of in the middle, not really good and not really bad.
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby DDEATH » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:46 am

DazedandConfused wrote:DDeath, WRONG :!: :!: I never watch any national news, only the local channel in the morning to catch the weather. I don't listen to the talking heads on the radio either. Bob & Tom radio show in the morning drive and rock on the way home. News is depressing :!: :!: I judge a President by my gut feelings, and I don't need a textbook to know when things aren't going well. Clinton, Reagan and Ike were my favorites, well I liked JFK also. Obama is the worst because he is orchestrating the total move to socialism. I liked Bush personally but he was a horrible president. Carter is an absolute joke. LBJ built the second leg of socialism and his Great Society ruined America. Bush 1 is sort of in the middle, not really good and not really bad.


Dazed, we agree on some........ I also liked Clinton, Reagan, Ike and JFK.

I disagree on Obama. He came into a difficult situation and is trying to make the best of it. This country is WAY BEHIND on universal healthcare. 32 of 33 modern countries have universal healthcare......... most of them are still capitalist countries. Like roads, defense, postal systems, etc., healthcare can best be administered by the central government, like Medicare. Obama screwed up when he caved to the insurance and drug industries and opted out of the single-payer system.

http://coto2.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/l ... ealthcare/

My gut and my brain both tell me that GW/Cheney :twisted: has been the worst prez of our time. 2 unecessary wars, with the loss of thousands of young Americans, tens of thousands of grievously wounded, trillions of dollars and other costs that our grandchildren will eventually pay for. Instead of raising taxes to fund those wars, as we've done throughout our history, he CUTS taxes, then sponsors a 6 trillion dollar UNFUNDED drug program. As if that isn't enough, he leaves office having raised our yearly spending from 6.5 to over 14 trillion per year and puts us into the worst recession since the Great depression!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davecjohnson/6088811201

I just can't think of any other prez since WWII, who has done so much damage to our country............ :x
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby keepitreal » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:29 pm

Don't forget DD...GW Bush "did not build this mess on his own" :lol: :lol: ..."he had lots of help, standing on the shoulders of those beneath him"...from his war-mongering VP and his Sec. of Defense Rumsfeld, his personal lying "secretary" and alleged wife Condi Rice :lol: , his lying and information leaking "brain" Rove, his every whim legalized by his "back pocket" Attorney General Gonzales...and of course...let us never forget the "rubber-stamp" Republican Congress that was at his every bidding... :lol: :lol:

I find it quite funny that some on here, can go all the way back to what they feel are failings of the 50's and 60's to explain the situations we are facing today...but the failings of the GWB decade, had nothing to do with it at all... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby DazedandConfused » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:22 pm

KeepItReal, I made it quite clear that Bush was a failure. I believe the removal of Hussein from Iraq was a strategic mistake. What his father accomplised in the Gulf War was undone by the son. Hussein as bad as he was, was a stabilizing influence on Iran. Who really cares if Muslims are killing Muslims? Kill it before it grows is my motto. With that said, I have never heard you say one bad thing about Obama. You like to point the finger, but remember there are 3 fingers pointing back at you. I can be critical of both parties, can you? Clinton with all his personal problems was a hell of a lot better that what we have had for almost 12 years, and yes Nixon was better than Bush and Obama also. Even in disgrace he was a better President. I have left the political area because of total disgust over the past 12 years.
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby keepitreal » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:18 pm

Sorry Dazed...if you thought that was directed at you. It wasn't. I think we agree more than disagree.

As for only "defending" Obama...there are so many posts trashing him...mostly from "The FOXBOT"...that pointing out the errors in the posts, puts me (and a few others) under the "Obama is my savior" label. You've seen it...you know what I'm talking about. Refuting anything posted about Obama or pointing out anything about the Republican Congress...gets you a one way ticket straight to "liberal-land" !! :lol: :lol:

Look...as for my Obama criticisms...and I don't believe I've kept these a secret...but I was kinda hoping that our 2 "wars" would be cleaned up by now and that the extra expenses from military savings could be used to "nation build" our own Nation. I was hoping that GITMO would be closed down and that the Patriot Act would be downsized by now. I had hoped that the Bush tax cuts would have been allowed to die on their own, the first time. I was hoping for some real tax code streamlining. I was hoping for an answer and fix to the out of control healthcare costs. I don't know if the ACA is the answer...but it's out there somewhere.

Obama to me, has been more of a Bush-lite"...while this do-nothing Congress, is holding us all hostage with the stalling, games and GREED. The Supreme Court F-ed up big time when they legislated that Corporations are "people". In my opinion, this is the worst mistake since GW Bush.

As for Hussein...I was all for it because (1) we created him and (2) I thought they were smart enough to have a plan after he was ousted. How many times did I type "WHAT"S THE PLAN ?!?" I can't count...but if you remember correctly, any criticism of Bush and company, automatically made you un-American...and yes...another ticket straight to "liberal-land" !! :lol:

Also not a secret, is that I give Obama credit for NOT giving up on bin laden...and he doesn't seem to want to put me out of a job. Guess who will get my vote... ;)

Besides...Romney is a Flip-Flopper...which we've all been told is a "huge sign of WEAKNESS and shows a LACK OF LEADERSHIP" (not MY words ;) ). He makes Kerry look like an amateur... and they wouldn't vote for him...so why now, all of a sudden, is it OK to vote for someone like that ?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby vetclerk » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:08 pm

AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE...what this guy did and what that guy did and BLAH BLAH BLAH ..BOTTOM LINE ; WE CANNOT AND MUST NOT ALLOW THIS PRESIDENT AND HIS ASS KISSERS TO REMAIN IN OFFICE..In your heart you know i'm right.
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby WindowMan » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:39 am

As opposed to the GOP Ass Kissers who believe all of the bullshit FOX spins? No, your as wrong as can be. Your all about hate of Obama and nothing more in my opinion. Hell you don't even know what the damn policies of Romney would be while you're screaming for him to be President in my opinion!
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby DDEATH » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:58 am

vetclerk wrote:AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE...what this guy did and what that guy did and BLAH BLAH BLAH ..BOTTOM LINE ; WE CANNOT AND MUST NOT ALLOW THIS PRESIDENT AND HIS ASS KISSERS TO REMAIN IN OFFICE..In your heart you know i'm right.


Both Romney and Obama have good points and bad points.

Both parties are now controlled by special interests thru the Superpacs.

However, right now, I think the dems will more likely help the middle class.

I lean toward Obama, but if Romney wins, I hope he turns things around. Will you feel the same if Obama wins?

Can we really trust Rep policies that got us into this mess, to lead us out of it? :idea:
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby WindowMan » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:35 am

Romney's good points, he was the author of the present Health Care Reform Actthat was upheld in the Supreme Court. .. Bad point, he flipped his stand.

He was for the Assault Weapons ban.. Bad point, he flipped his stand.

He agreed with Global Warming saying the cause was from fossil fuels.. Bad point, he flipped his stand.

Romney thought stimulus was good to improve the economy.. Bad point, he flipped his position.

I could give a longer list if you want, I really don't know how anyone can believe anything this man says at all considering his flips over the years. ;)
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Re: Poverty at highest levels since the 1960's

Postby vetclerk » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:00 pm

HATE??? No window,I Love Obama. I would love him more if he were out of the White House, and if he would starting thinking more about the welfare of this country than his own selfish agendas. On the other hand you DO seem to hate Romney.
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